You're argument is *pointless* - I'm clearly talking about crop sensors as there is nothing this wide, this fast in the APS-C world. I know these things cost $$, but it can't cost that much to add a 7th aperture blade and install a chip for m43. anyone can crop or cut out a field of view from that 7350 square degrees. Optical construction of Samyang 10mm F2.8 ED AS NCS CS features 14 lenses in 10 groups – among lenses, there are 2 glass aspherical lenses(AS) and 1 low-dispersion glass(ED). F2 at UWA lens is not "less ambitious". You could be right, Rod, but I've used borrowed Rokinon lenses before and found them to be quite sharp and contrasty. it can be like a box, an oval, a heart, or a cloud shaped frame as you want. reading before posting helps ;-). These capable cameras should be solid and well-built, have both speed and focus for capturing fast action and offer professional-level image quality. If you want to speak like an ignoramus then by all means do so. Benefits of using the nanocrystal cover include much better light transmission, higher resistance to reflections and higher contrast, which adds to the optical resolution of the lens. However, I see a potential chicken/egg problem. Ironically, if that person were to take the risk, Samyang lenses would probably sell in greater volume, thanks to the availability of the chip adapters. I mostly focus my 14 mm Samyang using the focus scale and keep it around f8. I would like to know your opinion on this picture. I don't like saying this but yabokkie has got a point here.Losing it's true ultra-wide potential kinda ruins it. But I'm not keen on anything that requires manual focus. Sometimes, you want to set the aperture manually and keep it there without the lens constantly resetting itself. In this buying guide we’ve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing around $2000 and recommended the best. This will be a nice walk-around lens for my NEX-6. The Samyang 12mm NCS CS is a small lens designed to be used on Mirrorless APS-C and Micro Four Thirds Cameras (Canon M, Fujifilm X, Samsung NX, Sony E and Micro Four Thirds). Find out if it'll make your life easier in our detailed review. I agree with all you say, particularly because this is a wide angle lens. manual focus such wide angel lens is very easy. Owing to a large aperture range of f/2.0, the lens offers a high image quality even in poor lightning conditions. If I want APS-C lens for m43, I would buy for example Nikon F mount and use it with regular adapter or SpeedBooster where needed (to use whole big lens potential). The lens couldn't be focused to infinity at all in temperatures below 5°C, not with AF, and not with MF. Kudos to Samyang. It feels rather dense for its size, presumably from the 12 element design. I really want a 10 or 12mm lens, but I've put off buying another two-pound zoom that takes up half your camera bag. Focus magnification works better but slows you down. Leica's SL2-S is a companion model to the existing SL2, coming in with more modest resolution but more robust burst shooting and video recording features. Technologically, the 12 mm NCS CS lens is the most advanced Samyang lens to date and features nanocrystal anti-reflective coating. When you add chips, AF, etc. Why am I confused on this matter? qweryasdf: A hard infinity stop is bad. a 12mm lens provides a maximum angle of view with the whole designed image circle, if it's 28.4mm diameter (for Nikon-Sony APS-C), the angle of view will be near 100 degrees or a cone of about 7350 square degrees. Re: MF vs. AF in Samyang lenses. Photography books never go out of style and can also serve as inspiration for years to come. I used a split prism one on mine for MF lenses. Vote now in our 2020 readers' poll. Ain't nobody nowehere's gonna stop youse. (Scott Kelby recommends 2 bodies for sports versus a do everything zoom) but I was like, stop throwing money at dead platforms (also a K-01 owner, the cost of the EoS-m was significantly less than getting a 22mm F2 equivalent lens for the K-01)...... No, EOS M is definitely not a dead platform. Of course if you already *have* the 14mm its even more attractive to get the GWC1 :-), samples on my bloghttp://cjeastwd.blogspot.fi/2013/10/panasonic-079-wide-adaptor-on-14mm.html. 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The latest version of Adobe Lightroom adds native support for Apple M1-powered computers, as well as Qualcomm Snapdragon-powered Windows 10 Arm devices. We already have two unrealized Samyang announcements of one lens: 2.8/10mm. It's just that Canon would rather sell lots of DSLRs right now. Vote now to have your say on which was best. Yes, that is terrible when you have to focus manually. I spent my whole life in the film days with a Pentax 6x7 and 4x5 cameras so complaints like this about MF lenses is just too funny. Combining a 37MP full-frame sensor, minimalist controls and Lightroom Mobile built in, it's a refreshing – if a bit quirky – take on the smartphone-meets-camera concept. :) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1039934-REG/rokinon_10m_e_10mm_f_2_8_ed_as.html. 8 blade iris is considered best but high precision is needed to get beautiful star rays. The body is the typical mix of metal and engineered plastics, but it has a very handsome finish. New software development kits (SDK) may not be the most buzzworthy announcements, but Sony's new camera automation SDK could be very interesting to product photographers. interesting alternative to the far more expensive Zeiss Touit 2.8/12mm (only available on NEX and Fuji-X though). With a basic manual lens, the only thing you can get wrong is the infinity stop (and my 14mm Samyang goes way, way beyond infinity). Taken together, Olympus and Panasonic have a larger market share in mirrorless than even Sony, so there's a large potential market. Reviews say the same. It’s built out of high quality plastics with a metallic lens mount. Providing a 35mm-equivalent focal length of 18mm and a broad 98.9° angle of view, this lens is great for interior, landscape, and architectural images. :). Besides, EOS M is doing quite well in Asia. ...thus rounded blades, as much as possible and a odd number of blades is best, due to diffraction issues. I shoot a lot of manual focus landscape pictures with lens adapters, in fact, I shoot most of my AF lens in manual focus when shooting landscape, so far the lack of in camera aperture control and exif has not been an issue for me, I shoot Nikon 14-24 on Canon 1DS3 regularly, I shoot all my Zeiss ZF.2 lenses on both D800E and 1DS3 & NEX7 with adapter all the time, actually I shoot all my DSLR lens on NEX7 including the Samyang, 14mm, 24mm.....love the manual aperture control ring, stop down metering has been working GREAT for me for all these years, Focus Peaking works fine with any manual lens with adapter, so for me, the MF Zeiss, Samyang with or without chips or any good optic with appropriate adapter is still good enough not only 50 years ago but also good enough at 2014, and many years ahead. In this video we explain what 'breathing' is and why it matters. In our latest buying guide we've selected some cameras that might be a bit older but still offer a lot of bang for the buck. Yabbokie on the other hand does not look like an educated gentleman. about 2/3 stops in term of light gathering capacity, plus narrower angle of view which is a careless waste for a wide angle lens. I think they are trying to avoid the stuff that's likely to cause problems. 21.August.2015 14 Comments Although street photography is my passion and indeed I teach workshops on this very subject for photographymasterclasses.uk, it’s commercial photography that mainly pays the bills. @lacikuss, unless you're after humorous effects, a 24mm lens is not a very good choice for portraiture. It's a type of slang. Well, because it's the same (12mm) lens. With low distortion and wide angle, photographers who want wide-angle photos such as landscape and architectural images can create satisfactory images. The 10mm would be great though. 12mm is 12mm. Focus Peaking works great even with very shallow DOF, as long as there is reasonable contrast. You order 2 lenses and both do not come with a hood, what would you do? The SL2-S marks Leica's entry into the stills/video hybrid market. Generally speaking, the subjects usually portrayed by super-wide lenses aren't moving very fast :). 23 July 2016 9 October 2019 fujifilmgear lens, review, samyang. The Rokinon 12mm f/2.0 with and without the included lens hood. Its 35mm focal length equivalency for Fuji X Mount Digital Cameras Is 18mm. It is an APS-C lens. With manual focus and aperture control, it will offer an 18mm equivalent angle of view on cameras with APS-C sensors (19mm equiv on Canon EOS … @kodachromeguy as they are shooting kids and sports no less! You're not wrong. Add this product to your shortlist for comparison, Shedding some light on the sources of noise, Canon EOS Rebel T8i (EOS 850D / EOS Kiss X10i), Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 IS Pro. This is your chance to have a say in which of this year's products was the best. That's why 12mm gives 12mm coverage on full-frame sensors, but only allows the equivalent of 18mm on APS-C and 24mm on MFT. The new Samyang 12 mm 1:2.0 NCS CS offers photographers an affordable, wide angle lens for APS-C mirrorless cameras. It's stupid to make oversized m43 lenses.. Performance We didn’t obtain such a high degree of sharpness as we got from the previous Samyang lenses we tested, although it’s difficult to determine whether it was because the lens was a pre-production sample or if its performance was intrinsically below par. M43 vs. APSC, etc?). As for m43, there are now several standard zooms starting at 12 mm (24 mm equiv. Adding the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 or 24-105 f4, thoughts? It doesn't matter that it's made it into the wikitionary or an online "dictionary". :). @menark: The point is that the much shorter backfocus distance allowed by mirrorless mounts makes wide angle lenses much easier to design. Ehh.. on crop sensors maybe, but generally nothing beats 24mm f/1.4 for "milkyway" usage. That'd be a total waste. I'v had the misfortune of being able to test a friend's Tokina zoom lens that had a hard infinity stop. M43's has no direct equivalent of an 18mm f2 lens. Secondly, just because YOU struggled with MF lenses with manual aperture control does not mean everyone will have the same issue, I think there are enough people around that use adapted lenses that they don't need to listen to your 'warnings'. The 18 and 24 are the full-frame equivalents of the crop factor imposed by the smaller sensor, which can only "see" a portion of the circle thrown toward the sensor by a 12mm angle of view. Samyang 8mm f3.5 UMC Fish-Eye CS -V-Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fisheye lens There were a couple of physical differences between the 8mm APS-C version and the 12mm Full Frame version. The conversion of these low-cost lenses means S35 and almost-full frame anamorphic shooting no longer needs to cost quite so much money. It's a non-standard word used in dialectic vernacular. If you're stopped down, getting the focus exactly right is not as important since DoF is so deep, especially on a wide-angle like this. Updated Lens availability is a critical part of choosing a camera system. Why this lack of enthusiasm? Perhaps Sigma will soon add to the available APS mirrorless lenses? Wide open and zone focusing is just begging for the right moment to be thrown away, in the pile of junk "almost focused" photos. This is going to give equivalent depth of field to your 14-24mm f/2.8 or 16-35mm f/2.8 at the same field of view. Samyang Optics has accustomed its clients to great quality optics offered at affordable prices and this is also the case with the 12 mm 1:2.0 NCS CS lens which provides technical parameters and potential that can easily compete with the best wide-angle prime and zoom lenses available on the market. I said to me that MF is possible at f1.4 and bla bla bla. Anyone who speaks proper English doesn't use it. why you don't take the SLR Magic 12mm F1.4 (T1.6) ? With manual focus and aperture control, it offers an 18mm equivalent angle of view on cameras with APS-C sensors (19mm equiv on Canon EOS M), and 24mm equivalent on Micro Four Thirds. With nano crystal coating and f/2.0 this will become the default lens for milky way and northern light photography for aspc sensor cameras. Videographers love to talk about it, but it can be important to still photographers as well. This same exact lens is also sold under the Samyang brand name. I don't think you know what you are talking about. Samyang has announced a wideangle prime designed specifically for mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras, the 12mm F2.0 NCS CS. ;). What two bodies do you use? contrary to many may think, the focal length is not a photographic concept. Samyang lenses are excellent optically, and who needs autofocus at 12mm? lol". The lens is rather small for an ultra-wide-angle, especially so when considering the f/2.0 maximum aperture. But I have to admit that empty EXITS are more frustrating. The EOS M is doing quite well in Asia only after Canon cut the pricing from 800 dolars straight down to 300-400. There are a lot of photo/video cameras that have found a role as B-cameras on professional productions or A-camera for amateur and independent productions. Read our full review to find out how it performs. Angled view of the Samyang 12mm f/2.8 AS NCS Fish-eye lens, showing the shallow lens hood. =). You're right, of course, but what I meant is (and didn't include) is that most subjects shot with a 12mm lens aren't usually moving very much. We have a look at the four full-frame mirrorless mounts to see how their lineups and technologies currently compare. DxO PhotoLab 4.0 launched in October. Well, I've taken photos of kids only once, and that was for a friend.But I've been dozens of times in the middle of the dancers (paid photog), and that was since before anybody could get their paws on a full-frame under 5000$; hence, the Tokina 12-24 use.BTW, even if I have no use for video footage (or I can't be bothered by it; leaving it to the young guns), still I can see a flaw in the logic for a stabilization system for UWA: of course, it's... video. And of course focus peaking is useless because everything is white or red : everything is simply always focused. Capture One 21 has been released. Samyang 12mm f/2.0 Overview The black 12mm f/2.0 NCS CS Lens for Fujifilm X-Mount from Samyang is a wide-angle prime lens designed specifically for use with APS-C format image sensors. Announced Mar 21, 2014 The Samyang (Rokinon in the U.S.) 12mm F2.0 NCS CS is a wideangle prime designed specifically for mirrorless compact system cameras. The daguerreotype was the first commercially viable photographic process when it was introduced to the world in 1839. Beautiful lens, I am sure the performance will be excellent... bhphotovideo has both.12/2.0 Rokinon/Samyang for 400$and10/2.8 Rokinon/Samyang for 530$. Those are questions that I hope to answer in this Rokinon 12mm lens review. Have made a custom Dof scale for it, works nice in most situations. The year 2020 might have offered us fewer chances to get out and photograph the things we love, but that didn't stop manufacturers from bringing a ton of excellent new lenses to market. 319€ is listed in Slovenia - http://foto-klik.si/en/lenses-for-sony/samyang-12mm-f/2.0-ncs-cs-sony-e-mount-black.html. There's a difference between angle of view (what the lens sees) and angle of coverage (what the film/sensor sees). Preferably, to develop chip adapters tailored to different mounts and camera brands. There isn't much focusing to do with superwides so that shouldn't be much of a problem. F2.8 is very bright even under relatively dark environment, clear and vivid images can be captured. 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